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Old 06-02-2010, 03:25 PM
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How did Americans differ over religious beliefs and values/culture between the "conservative" emphasis and the "liberal/modern" emphasis on social issues as related to theological/religious differences?

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Old 06-03-2010, 03:25 PM
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Sorry, as much as I would like your love forever, I don't think that was a history question, unless you can be a little more clear about what time frame you're talking about? If you're talking about modern day, then it's also not a history question.
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Old 06-06-2010, 03:25 PM
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what did you say? i read it twice and still not sure what you are asking.
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:25 PM
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Somehow I doubt the legitimacy of your opening statement.
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:25 PM
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well most conservatives are Christians and are deeply religious in their ways and want the country to reform towards being a more spiritual nation. The liberals and the left side which are usually secular try to get people to put more emphasis on the world today and improving life for everyone and forget about most religious teachings because they believe the holy text are really creditable. the two sides have some similarities but mainly differences but their are radicals on each side which act and cause the middle to stereotype then two sides(conservative-right,Liberal-Left). however in our government we have the freedom of speech and religion therefor it is demanded we respect the beliefs of others. for some people all the have is their religious opinion so that even if all the world hates them they still have their opinion and in America the freedom of speech gives any man with no hope, some hope.
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:25 PM
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America started from a pretty bland group of Protestents who came here to get away from discrimination in England or were shipped here as slaves (indentured servants and people from debater's prisons). Hessions who stayed after serving as Merck's in the revolutionary war only reinforced this make up. Then came the acquisition of French and Spanish lands as well as large immigrations of Jewish and Catholic settlers. Before these people groups like the Dutch were minorities and suffered the same treatment that the Irish, Italians, freed slaves, and so on suffered when they first broke into American society.

So the "old blood" money formed a WASP type social structure to keep out unwanted Catholics, Jews and other ethnic groups. This formed the base group which ironically forms the core today of the "liberal" leadership.

The so called Conservative movement started as a sort of Farmer's rebellion against the corruption and lack of rural representation found in the Gov around the time of the civil war. It was born of the same problems which caused the South a mostly rural area to suceed from the union. Sorry slavery was a minor issue in the cival war. Abe Lincoln was the first Republican elected president. The Whig party disapeered almost overnight. Many of them becoming either democrats or republicans.

New money had arisen during the intervening years. The railroad barons, Catholics and Jews who had struck it rich, often initially with ilegal enterprises, imigrants from other nations who came here with money. They lived a work ethic and it became the "American dream" while the Democrats remains a party of the old blood and Whites in the South who hated the Republican party for winning the cival war and dozens of other issues.

This is pretty much where things sat for most of 50 years. The Democrats eventually lured over labor to it's party. Certain ethnic groups like the Irish and Jews who worked the docks and other interests found themselves lined up with teh Democrats who's old money leadership was trying to strike down the new money. By accident alot of good things happened in the process of the two sides fighting this war. Better wages and workplace safety being a couple of those things.

Today it's still a battle between old blood and new blood money. Added to it are quite a few special interests. Big corps and small biz tends to be "conservitive". The WASP churches found affinity with Republicans while the Catholic church found affinity with the Democrats. However down the road the Democrats catered to many other groups almost forcing the Catholic church into Republican boundries with an anti-Christian flavor that took hold in the 60s.

So theologically the so called "liberals" denounce religion officially but strongly favor anti-Christian religions or the lack of religion. Part of this was the failure of the US comunist party and the movement of Comunists into the Democratic party. Comunists as a fundemental plank are athiests. Comunism officially sees religion as a form of oppression. An Opiate of the masses to quote Marx. The adoption of the Democratic party and large scale conversion to Islam by many Blacks furthor added to this.

Republicans got a swelling of Christian support as a result and suddenly they became charged with protecting Christianity, especially Protestent Christianity. Republicans welcomed the Christian factions then and still do today though they are smarting from the actions of some televangilists and some of the extreme views found in the more fanatical Christian churches.

As for values. That is not a thought in the head of either party. They will run up slogans but these are purely to satisfy various factions within their party. Both liberal and conservitive have lost all sight of the meaning of the constitution. Both pretend to fight for upholding various sections of the US Constitution. For example in issues of free speech it is more often the Liberal that will jump up and shout first amendment all the while supporting other causes that trample all over other rights. The conservitive will jump up and shout about the gun control but allow free speach to be trampled on. Both parties ignore issues such as the legal system and it's woes. Both parties pass laws that trample all over our rights such as the recent Patriot act. How could anybody who cared anything about the US constitution pass laws like the Republican's Patriot act and
the the Democratic Indecency laws. Both parties had to approve to get this legislation passed. Both parties blatently ignored the US constitution. Is there a single cry about no knock searches by masked men by either party?

So in general liberals tend to espouse athieism theologically. In general that is. Gore and his crowd envoked religion in their PRMC days and were some of the most ardent book burners around. In general the Republican party will side with Christianity though a large number of non-Christians are members of the Repubilcan party.

Culturally there is no difference. It is a bitter rivalry over who's version of hell we will get. If either side wins it will be a poor life for both sides except for top leadership.
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:25 PM
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well i think.................no that must not be the reason or might be well i am not sure but i think this must be the reason.I think my answer should be wrong as i cant stand you for a minute i will be in deep trouble if u love me forever.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:25 PM
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maybe I think we are the same as other countries
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Sorry this one went flying full speed over my head.
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Old 06-27-2010, 03:25 PM
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Actually, after reading your question, right away I went towards the two biggest issues of our day, the Pro-Choice/Pro-Life controversy and the Death Penalty debate.

It seems to me that somehow during the Reagan years, the republicans were led into becoming the pro-life, pro-death penalty party. Because many religious people, especially Catholics, are pro-life because of their beliefs, they were forced to leave their original party (democrats) even though on most other issues they definitely fall to the left (usually pro-welfare and pro-social programs). The irony here is that most of the same people who are pro-life would also be anti-death penalty, but the republican platform doesn't support that. They do, on the other hand, oppose assisted suicide and mercy killing, which for the more liberal Catholics, seems to be okay.

Democrats have had to take on the opposite sides of the issues to oppose the democrats and fall on the side that is anti-death penalty and pro-choice and pro-euthanasia. But not every democrat believes in all three, but has had to support their party the same way that the republicans support theirs.

But I definitely think the most interesting group to look at in this regard are Catholics, and the very religious Christian right who actually have more in common with democrats, but have had to join the republican party to support their religious beliefs, and this has caused a big power shift in the country.
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:25 PM
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In layman's terms you want to know how conservative people differ from liberal people on social issues of modern religion. There is no easy answer to that. people vary in there opinions both conservative and liberal. The liberal side tends to have more atheists and the conservative more baptists. Both however are hypocritical of religion and in general tend to stay among there peers. Occasionally one will stray over towards the other side and that's when actual communication occurs between the groups. Usually not much is accomplished because of there beliefs and people tend to stick to beliefs even over common sense and logic. In the end the only way the two can get together on anything is if they both cross lines and get together and say screw religion we just want to be happy because life is short and all those prudes can kiss there asp because they are getting some and the others are not.

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